I am just curious if Greenzap is for REAL.
GreenZap

Seems legit but I am sure there are critics or is it just another way of getting you to sign up and paying a fee? Is this an investment CLUB or WHAT?

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Hi All,

HERE'S A "PRO" GREENZAP COMMENT...

With all the hype and Internet scams, I can see why people these days run when they see almost "any" opportunity that comes along.

It seems that the bigger the potential, the greater the degree of skepticism. And also, all the more people taking pot-shots, many in ignorance and without having any facts what-so-ever.

To come to the defense of GreenZap, everyone...please hold your comments until you have the facts first. To make outlandish comments such as "this is a scam," without any (or much)information and evidence is ridiculous and those naive enough to run along with this slander
may be missing a great opportunity.

GreenZap has the deep pocket financial backing, management and ingenious business concept to "go the distance" with the likes of "any" of the big boys.

The web site as you see it today (4/6/05) is for pre registration. They did not expect over 5 million hits their first 3 days after just sharing the concept with about 40 or 50 people.

They have had to order high powered servers to accommodate this issue so people can actually get to the web site by Monday or Tuesday at the latest. You can't even get on it now. And no, they don't have some malicious code spying on people.

Do you believe everything you hear or read in print? Because it's in print, people tend to believe it's true. Weigh the evidence and site actual PROOF, before making such comments, please.

The GreenZap concept and planning has been evolving for several months. June 1st will be the unveiling of what could be the next giant Internet business.

Rather than go into it too much more, be watching for weekly press releases and the GreenZap newsletter. They will spell out things people are asking such as:
1) How can they do this?
2) Why are they doing this?
3) Won't they run out of money?
4) Who are the corporate people involved?
5) Who is backing this financially?
6) Why are they using DomainsbyProxy?
7) What is their true business model?
8) Why are they better than Paypal?
9) How can I get involved?

And Much much more. The have hired a professional ad agency and public relations company. They have more than enough investors to fund this and know the value of a "loyal" member to their community. They want to make the GreenZap community fun and rewarding. A simple plan.

Offering $25 to open a free account is an inexpensive way to add a new member to their growing community. Offering rewards like this and for referring new members to GreenZap is the way they have chosen to build the community. They'll even be rewarding up to $30 for people we refer and they refer and they refer, etc.

This is your community, if you choose to embrace it. There are some really cool things on the drawing board. Give them a chance before you tear them apart. Remember the golden rule before opening your mouth too far.

Hey, they are not asking for ANYTHING right now (ok, your email address). Hey, if your email is that important to you then don't join the community. This is a free world.

If you think spammers can't get any email they want from 20 other "harvesting" methods, you're grossly misinformed. GreenZap is willing to GIVE us $25 for joining their community of online spenders and senders.

They will also offer a secured credit card, you'll be able to "zap some green" to friends for only $1 per transaction...no matter how big it is. They don't need to charge more like the competition and they still make good money. They know what they are doing. Give them a chance to prove themselves.

They are NOT building a large email list to sell spammers. Spammers already have all the lists they need and when they need a new one, they know where to go to get it or they generate their own.

There is a LOT more money in "this" GreenZap business plan than some penny-anti email scam. Give me a break. Come on folks, think this thru a little, don't put every "deal" that comes along in the same SCAM category.

Many companies are legit and really do have people of integrity behind them that want to see a better world. GreenZap is one of them.

Yes, you may need to see the proof first. So, you can be one of the folks who sits back and watches things happen and later wish you had joined and referred friends.

Paypal started with a few people and now has over 68 MILLION. GreenZap will be much better than Paypal...much less expensive per transaction and by rewarding us MUCH more.

Or, you can join somebody's invitation to join GreenZap.com for Free and receive your $25 on June 1st. It's not like they're asking for your first born child, or $50,000 or even $1,000.

They want to pay YOU to join their community and refer others, rather than pay the television, radio and print media. And the biggest portion of what they pay us is "after" people we refer upgrade to a credit card. Much more effective than paying the TV, radio and print media "before" anything happens (and may never happen). HELLO.

By the way. This is simply a "Rewards" system. This is NOT MLM (network marketing) by an stretch. There is no recruiting, no residual commissions and no over-priced products to sell.

This is FREE. Nobody gets hurt.

In fact, we're not selling anything. We're getting a reward for joining a community...for FREE, just like the banks pay people. GreenZap is not twisting any arms.

I'm a member of GreenZap (obviously) and not a corporate employee. The reason I wrote this lengthy essay (lol) is because I'm tired of all the negativity in this world. I'm tired of people attacking anybody and anything they feel like.

I see a company that wants to do good for people and has amazing things planned (ok, I do have a "little" inside information) and then I see people lashing out at them, with NO information. This is so sad.

I understand people have been burned. That will never stop. So who gives us the license to then go out and trash-talk any new idea, opportunity or concept that we feel like that day?

You may say, "Free Speech Nick. I just want to inform people of potential scams out there."

Good intentions but PLEASE, get your facts straight...first. To so otherwise is only bending the golden rule to fit out own needs or egos.

If after reading this you want more information, then be on the lookout for the press releases and news letters. I do not have, and will not take the time to spend on naysayer. When it comes to business, I like to work with "like-minded" positive thinking people. Life is too short.

If you want to JOIN the GreenZap community and "possibly" reap some rewards ("potentially" great rewards, but certainly not guaranteed)...then join me. My promo code is under my name.

Thanks for reading.

Respectfully,

Nick Hetcher
Go to: www.GreenZap.com. Then type in the word: PM Nick Hetcher for this word, it's a referral. Note: You can't sign up for GreenZap without a referral. as the promo code. Then you'll get your own promo code and can offer others "worldwide" $25 to join. And, the $25 comes from GreenZap, not us). You'll get $5 when they join (all on June 1st) with the potential to make much more.

http://scam.com/showthread.php?t=2190&page=1&pp=10

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Well here is my two cent. This appears to be a scam. Personally, I think these folks are scammers.

Hi everyone…

I was among those waiting for the outline to be released on the 15th, and seen the deadline come and go. I spoke with Alex and some others over the preceding week, and was under the impression that the outline would be released yesterday, as I was told it would be.

This obviously did not happen. I have since been in contact with several people, trying to find out why. The rewards program details are so closely tied in with the rest of the site and the way it functions, the decision has been made to release everything at once. Although I may not personally like the decision, I do support it, and can understand the reasoning for it. In just over a week, the entire site will be live, and all promises delivered, and I’m ok with that.

I want to personally apologize to those people that I told for “certain” that the details would be out yesterday, and not being able to live up to that. I was simply relaying information that i was given, and had no control over it’s outcome. I hope you will not hold that against me, as I try to be an informative source regarding Greenzap, and I also try to live up to my promises.

With that being said, I am going to move this thread to the “rewards” forum, and personally address any questions to the best of my ability regarding the rewardz program that you may have before opening day, in just about a week.

If i cannot answer something, I will tell you up front, and will seek an answer meanwhile. I’m here to help, and that’s what I plan on doing

Happy Zapping,
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