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BEWARE!! I paid the $9.95 to get their "package," which had no more information in it that the original free advertisement.

I called my "mentor" Loran Victorino, who asked for another $400.00 for the actual business package to get started (oh yeah, my understanding is the $400.00 is for a bunch of vitamins that he said I should be familiar with to sell them) at which time I told him I didn't want to be involved and expressed my wishes to take advantage of their back guarantee and to not charge my cc for the $39.95. He said he wouldn't charge my cc for the $39.95 and to return the package.

I returned the package and then a couple days later I see the charge on my cc for $39.95. I called him and asked what's up to which he replied he had forgotten to tell his "partner" not to charge me so it was his error. I sent him an e-mail (professional with no profanity or threatening language) to which he called me and started yelling profanities (funny thing is his message talks about having a blessed day and "God Bless" but that's the way it works - when you are sending them they are christians but when you stop sending them their true colors shine).

I contacted the BBB and his response to them was he would credit me once he received his package - I can't return it to him twice. He still says he didn't receive it - I asked if maybe his "partner" got it and forgot to tell him. Anyway, I finally got the credit about a month ago.

Today I see he has charged my cc again for the $39.95. THESE GUYS ARE CROOKS!! BEWARE!!!!
BEWARE!! I paid the $9.95 to get their "package," which had no more information in it that the original free advertisement.

I called my "mentor" Loran Victorino, who asked for another $400.00 for the actual business package to get started (oh yeah, my understanding is the $400.00 is for a bunch of vitamins that he said I should be familiar with to sell them) at which time I told him I didn't want to be involved and expressed my wishes to take advantage of their back guarantee and to not charge my cc for the $39.95. He said he wouldn't charge my cc for the $39.95 and to return the package.

I returned the package and then a couple days later I see the charge on my cc for $39.95. I called him and asked what's up to which he replied he had forgotten to tell his "partner" not to charge me so it was his error. I sent him an e-mail (professional with no profanity or threatening language) to which he called me and started yelling profanities (funny thing is his message talks about having a blessed day and "God Bless" but that's the way it works - when you are sending them they are christians but when you stop sending them their true colors shine).

I contacted the BBB and his response to them was he would credit me once he received his package - I can't return it to him twice. He still says he didn't receive it - I asked if maybe his "partner" got it and forgot to tell him. Anyway, I finally got the credit about a month ago.

Today I see he has charged my cc again for the $39.95. THESE GUYS ARE CROOKS!! BEWARE!!!!

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3/26/04
Subject: Victim who worked very very hard in the Global Online System

Hi Rob

My name is Stanley and I have been in the Global Onine System (selling HERBALIFE products) for more than one year. I lost more than $7000 Canadian in total following all their rules and attending all thier trainings. All my downlines lost on average $3000Canadian(of course, some of them are not serious as I was). I met Debbie Stoltz, her husband Gerry, Martin Lyttek, Shawn Dahl, Dwayne Norris and my coach Deborah Haskins personally. I don't know if I should call them "bad" people or not. But the reality was they "had to" lie to everyone interested in the system and get them to pay.

Joining and working in the Global Online System was a completely nightmare to me. It was the biggest regret in my life. Here are the BIGS LIES that you will hear in the Global Online Training.

Lie #1: Global Online System(GOS) is a business offering better opportunities for making large sums of money than all other traditional business and professional models. If you don't make money, it's because you complain too much and you are not serious.

Truth: For almost everyone who invests GOS turns out to be a losing financial proposition. I was losing money every single month in the business (from Mar 2002- Mar 2003) working 10 hours per day, but I had to lie on the stage that I was making large sum of money.

Lie #2: Eventually all products will be sold by Global Online System, a new form of marketing. Retail stores, shopping malls, catalogues and most forms of advertising will soon be rendered obsolete by MLM.

Truth: Most my downlines were forced to sell their Herbalife products through Ebay since their products simply didn't "move". Most GOS customers quit buying the goods as soon as they quit seeking the "business opportunity." There is no brand loyalty.

These basic facts show that, as a marketing model, GOS is not replacing existing forms of marketing. It does not legitimately compete with other marketing approaches at all. Rather, GOS represents a new investment scheme that uses the language of marketing and sales of products.

Lie #3: Global Online Sytem is a new way of life that offers happiness and fulfillment. It is a means to attain all the good things in life.

Truth: It was a miserable year for me and all my downlines. I told my coach Deborah that I was depressed since I had no more money in my bank. She told me not to tell my downlines about it and suggested that I should ask my parents to borrow money.

Lie #4: You can do Global Online System in your SPARE time. As a business, it offers the greatest flexibility and personal freedom of time. A few hours a week can earn a significant supplemental income and may grow to a very large income making other work unnecessary

Truth: THIS IS THE BIGGEST LIE!!! Working in GOS requires extraordinary time commitment as well as considerable personal wiliness, persistence and deception. Beyond the sheer hard work and special aptitude required, the business model inherently consumes more areas of ones life and greater segments of time. They say "work at the comfort of your home with your kids", but this is a BIG LIE! They encouraged me to go out there and do pull tabs and posters every night during winter!

Lie #5. Global Online System is a positive, supportive new business that affirms the human spirit and personal freedom.

Truth: GOS materials reveal that much of the message is fear-driven and based upon deception about income potential. Solicitations frequently include dire predictions about the impending collapse of other forms of distribution, the disintegration or insensitivity of corporate America and Canada, and the lack of opportunity in other professions or services. Conventional professions, trades and business are routinely demeaned and ridiculed for not offering 'unlimited income.' Employment is cast as wage enslavement for 'losers.' MLM is presented as the last best hope for many people. This approach, in addition to being deceptive, frequently has a discouraging effect on people who otherwise would pursue their own unique visions of success and happiness. A sound business opportunity does not have to base its worth on negative predictions and warnings.

Lie #6. Global Online System is the best option for owning your own business and attaining real economic independence.

Truth: GOS is NOT true self-employment. 'Owning' an MLM distributorship is an illusion. Participation requires rigid adherence to the 'duplication' model, not independence and individuality. GOS distributors are NOT entrepreneurs but joiners in a complex hierarchical system over which they have little control.

Bob, please help me spread this msg out. I am tired of seeing victims being blamed about not being serious enough.

-Stanley Cheng

Cockeyed.com

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