These guys may be legit. Sure hope they contact me and clarify this. I've been able to see footprints that leads me to believe that they may be haboring these THUGS.

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Domain Name: WESTERNBID.COM
Registrar: MELBOURNE IT, LTD. D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLDWIDE
Whois Server: whois.melbourneit.com
Referral URL: http://www.melbourneit.com
Name Server: NS8.SAN.YAHOO.COM
Name Server: NS9.SAN.YAHOO.COM
Status: ACTIVE
Updated Date: 20-oct-2004
Creation Date: 30-oct-2001
Expiration Date: 30-oct-2005


Last update of whois database: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:14:47 EDT

The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains and
Registrars.
Domain Name.......... westernbid.com
Creation Date........ 2001-10-31
Registration Date.... 2001-10-31
Expiry Date.......... 2005-10-31
Organisation Name.... Western Bid, Inc.
Organisation Address. 124 12th Avenue South
Organisation Address. Minneapolis
Organisation Address. 55415
Organisation Address. MN
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

Admin Name........... Michael Birman
Admin Address........ 124 12th Avenue South
Admin Address........ Minneapolis
Admin Address........ 55415
Admin Address........ MN
Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
Admin Email.......... sales@westernbid.com
Admin Phone.......... 612-333-8819

Tech Name............ YahooDomains Techcontact
Tech Address......... 701 First Ave.
Tech Address......... Sunnyvale
Tech Address......... 94089
Tech Address......... CA
Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
Tech Email........... domain.tech@YAHOO-INC.COM
Tech Phone........... 1-619-881-3096
Tech Fax.............
Name Server.......... ns8.san.yahoo.com
Name Server.......... ns9.san.yahoo.com


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Domain ID104167233-LROR
Domain Name:WESTERNBID.ORG
Created On:29-Mar-2004 17:33:24 UTC
Last Updated On:19-Mar-2005 01:57:35 UTC
Expiration Date:29-Mar-2006 17:33:24 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Melbourne IT, Ltd. dba Internet Names Worldwide (R52-LROR)
Status:OK
Registrant ID108057706878525
Registrant Name:Michael Birman
Registrant Organization:Western Bid, Inc.
Registrant Street1:124 12th Avenue South
Registrant City:Minneapolis
Registrant State/Province:MN
Registrant Postal Code:55415
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.612 333 8819

Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.612 333 8819
Admin Email:sales@westernbid.com
Tech ID108057706878524
Tech Name:YahooDomains TechContact
Tech Organization:Yahoo! Inc
Tech Street1:701 First Ave.
Tech City:Sunnyvale
Tech State/Province:CA
Tech Postal Code:94089
Tech Country:US

Tech Phone:+1.619 881 3096
Tech FAX:+1.6198813010
Tech Email:domain.tech@YAHOO-INC.COM
Name Server:YNS1.YAHOO.COM
Name Server:YNS2.YAHOO.COM

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Domain Name: WESTERNBID.BIZ
Domain ID: D6571590-BIZ
Sponsoring Registrar: MELBOURNE IT D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLD WIDE

Domain Status: ok
Registrant ID: B108058149997354
Registrant Name: Michael Birman
Registrant Organization: Western Bid, Inc.
Registrant Address1: 124 12th Avenue South
Registrant City: Minneapolis
Registrant State/Province: MN
Registrant Postal Code: 55415
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Country Code: US
Registrant Phone Number: +1.6123338819
Registrant Email: sales@westernbid.com

Administrative Contact ID: B10805815997655
Administrative Contact Name: Michael Birman
Administrative Contact Organization: Michael Birman
Administrative Contact Address1: 124 12th Avenue South
Administrative Contact City: Minneapolis
Administrative Contact State/Province: MN
Administrative Contact Postal Code: 55415
Administrative Contact Country: United States
Administrative Contact Country Code: US
Administrative Contact Phone Number: 1.612 3 8819
Administrative Contact Email: sales@westernbid.com

Billing Contact ID: B108058149997353
Billing Contact Name: YahooDomains BillingContact
Billing Contact Organization: Yahoo! Inc
Billing Contact Address1: 701 First Ave.
Billing Contact City: Sunnyvale
Billing Contact State/Province: CA
Billing Contact Postal Code: 94089
Billing Contact Country: United States
Billing Contact Country Code: US
Billing Contact Phone Number: +1.6198813096


Billing Contact Email: domain.billing@YAHOO-INC.COM
Technical Contact ID: B10805815997656
Technical Contact Name: YahooDomains TechContact
Technical Contact Organization: Yahoo! Inc
Technical Contact Address1: 701 First Ave.
Technical Contact City: Sunnyvale
Technical Contact State/Province: CA
Technical Contact Postal Code: 94089
Technical Contact Country: United States
Technical Contact Country Code: US
Technical Contact Phone Number: +1.6198813096
Technical Contact Facsimile Number: +1.6198813010
Technical Contact Email: domain.tech@YAHOO-INC.COM

Name Server: YNS1.YAHOO.COM
Name Server: YNS2.YAHOO.COM
Created by Registrar: MELBOURNE IT D/B/A INTERNET
Last Updated by Registrar: MELBOURNE IT D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLD WIDE
Domain Registration Date: Mon Mar 29 17:33:33 GMT 2004
Domain Expiration Date: Tue Mar 28 23:59:59 GMT 2006
Domain Last Updated Date: Sat Mar 19 01:57:32 GMT 2005

>>>> Whois database was last updated on: Sat Jul 16 22:32:55 GMT 2005


Domain Name:WESTERNBID.INFO
Created On:29-Mar-2004 17:33:43 UTC
Last Updated On:19-Mar-2005 01:57:34 UTC
Expiration Date:29-Mar-2006 17:33:43 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:R141-LRMS
Status:ACTIVE
Status:OK
Registrant ID:C4520007-LRMS
Registrant Name:Michael Birman
Registrant Organization:Western Bid, Inc.
Registrant Street1:124 12th Avenue South
Registrant City:Minneapolis
Registrant State/Province:MN
Registrant Postal Code:55415
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.612 333 8819
Registrant Email:sales@westernbid.com

Admin ID:C4520004-LRMS
Admin Name:Michael Birman
Admin Street1:124 12th Avenue South
Admin City:Minneapolis
Admin State/Province:MN
Admin Postal Code:55415
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.6123338819
Admin Email:sales@westernbid.com

Billing ID:C4520005-LRMS
Billing Name:YahooDomains BillingContact
Billing Organization:Yahoo! Inc
Billing Street1:701 First Ave.
Billing City:Sunnyvale
Billing State/Province:CA
Billing Postal Code:94089
Billing Country:US
Billing Phone:+1.619 881 3096
Billing Email:domain.billing@YAHOO-INC.COM

Tech ID:C4520006-LRMS
Tech Name:YahooDomains TechContact
Tech Organization:Yahoo! Inc
Tech Street1:701 First Ave
Tech City:Sunnyvale
Tech State/Province:CA
Tech Postal Code:94089
Tech Country:US

Tech Phone:+1.619 881 3096
Tech Email:domain.tech@YAHOO-INC.COM
Name Server:NS1.RELMAX.NET
Name Server:NS2.RELMAX.NET

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Domain Name: FROMUKRAINE.COM
Registrar: DOMAINPEOPLE, INC.
Whois Server: whois.domainpeople.com
Referral URL: http://www.domainpeople.com
Name Server: NS1.VHOSTNIX4.COM
Name Server: NS2.VHOSTNIX4.COM
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Updated Date: 23-sep-2004
Creation Date: 08-nov-2003
Expiration Date: 08-nov-2005

>>> Last update of whois database: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:14:47 EDT <<<

Registrant:
ZSP Inc.
Uritskogo str., 35/60
Romny,, Sumy reg. 42000
Ukraine
Registrar: DomainPeople Inc.

Domain Name: fromukraine.com
Created on .............Sat Nov 08 15:59:22 2003
Expires on .............Tue Nov 08 18:59:24 2005
Record last updated on .Thu Sep 23 13:33:10 2004
Status .................LOCK

Administrative Contact:
ZSP Inc.
Sergey Zagorulko
Uritskogo str., 35/60

Romny, Sumy reg.
42000, UA
(380)544831692
(380)544831692
zsp@sm.ukrtel.net

Technical Contact:
ZSP Inc.
Sergey Zagorulko
Uritskogo str., 35/60

Romny, Sumy reg.
42000, UA
(380)544831692
(380)544831692
zsp@sm.ukrtel.net

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ns1.vhostnix4.com 12.30.241.162
ns2.vhostnix4.com 12.30.241.163

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Errrrrr I think that westernbid.com is legitimate. They've been around for a few years now, and seem to be involved in helping make eBay transactions between western countries and people living in the former Soviet Union. What they are like to deal with as a company, I don't know.

-- HOWEVER --

Their web site was recently ripped off by a site called westernforce.biz which appeared to be dealing in stolen goods, this was basically a copy-and-paste job that even included the contact details of the westernbid.com business. It's quite possible that there are other copies of westernbid.com's sites around being used for the same purpose.

Hey Dynmoo -
You may be absolutely right regarding WesternBid, my research indicates that some of their business practices are questionable. Either they are aware of these practices directly or indirectly.

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I guess it's a little like eBay - they connect buyers and sellers.. however, it doesn't mean that the buyers and sellers are reputable.

You are rarely helping anyone. Everyone knows how to do a whois Scrub. I mean go to tucows, type in the information and perform your whois. What your members are looking for is solid evidence that these sites that you are labeling possible scams are scams. Providing the whois information for a website will not prove they are a scam. Be careful you don't get sued for libel yourself. Make sure that you have facts and solid evidence supporting your statements. You can not post damaging information that was created by others on other scam websites without first verifying the facts that support it. I suggest that you get some legal advice from a lawyer and read up on some articles regarding libel. You are the author of this website, so you have to very careful.

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