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Old 03-25-07, 07:00 PM
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Re: Get rich quick? www.easychairmillionaire.com


Hi Scrub,

Now that the "whining" accusations are properly put to rest, please let me briefly explain that our company's site that you have mentioned in this very thread is one of our biggest sellers.
This site sells music that I myself produced as a musician.
Let's not get this product confused with your own practices of what you call "scam business." LOL

A quick clarification: The FTC frowns upon ebooks with "Master resell rights," in other words, ebooks that encourage the buyers to resell the product. These are though much different then total Ponzis which inevitably fail to compensate the end user of the pyramid because of limited population.

Advertising laws which mostly fall under the "deceptive practices" department of the FTC, and "Ponzi" schemes are two different issues for your information.
It is safe to say that an ebook that contains 150 pages of instructing "how to train your dog" or "cook ethiopian food" with advertising copy that follows legal guidelines, will not fall into the generalized explanation you have again recklessly suggested.

The FTC also frowns upon Google advertisers such as yourself who impersonate government authority in an attempt to make money from "Get rich quick" adsense ads. Look at your meta tags, they include the following words: "work at home" and "MLM." (For those reading that do not understand the term, it stands for "Multi-Level-Matrix.") This is in no way a coincidence, people who search for "work at home" are only searching with that term because they want to "work at home." You know that. Simply put, you cannot claim to protect while advertising the very same websites you are discrediting. The site visitors do not search with terms such as "work at home" to investigate scams. In fact, just by looking at your keywords of choice in your meta tags, my 5th grade son could tell you meddle in matrix, only disguised as a protector. These poor bastards then visit your site, click on the ad and purchase the ponzi scheme putting a Google commission in your pocket paid for by the advertiser. I would take care of that if I were you for the government and class action attorneys aren't stupid.

On another note, I have noticed at least 10 different violations of the Google Adsense program on your site as well. Just a heads up!

Scrub, I sincerely hope that you take my attorney's advice when it comes in the mail. Admitting you made a mistake would suit you well right about now. We can then move on from there.

You folks have grown on me and It would be a pleasure to continue stimulating discussion and debate here at SFA.

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biguniversity1,
If making money is a CRIME, we plead guilty. Many organization importantly the tech industry i.e. www.mircosoft.com www.google.com www.amazon.com www.yahoo.com www.ebay.com and a host of other companies did not started out with the intention of making money. They created a product found out that it was profitable and went from there.
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As far as google adsense is concern, it's like reporting scams. You filtered out one, another shows up instantly. This is a never ending task.
We did not go out searching for your firm or business. A member brought this to our attention and we dugg deaper and your site or business showed that there was a linked. All we have done is to point out the linkage. As I mentioned earlier, all traces of these links get removed or erased once discovered and we are later contacted with these disputes. What do you want us to do, not tell the public at that time there existed a linkage.

The internet is a powerful medium. As powerful as it is so is the danger. Individuals can concealed their identity and never get discovered. Others may try to concealed their identity and do get discover. www.Easychairmillionaire.com was being marketed along with other sites on your server. Which is where we are. Who's fault is this? Mine or yours?
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show details 7:25 pm (23 minutes ago)

Hello Scrub,

This is BigUniversity1 from the "easyChair thread."

I tried my best to explain to you that we were not associated with the subject of the thread, this EasyChair site.

The only people who promote our sites are Clickbank affiliates.
As you may already know, vendors who have paid Clickbank to "feature" their products on the marketplace (such as myself) do not have any ways of
contacting Clickbank affiliates. I myself have never promoted easychair, as well as hardly even promoting any of my own sites, so it is more then probable that it was one of Clickbank's 100,000 affiliates that promotes "easychair" and "Bestbeats" that you were after.

We take it seriously when a broadcasting company connects us with a website we have never heard of. On top of that, if we are not doing anything wrong, you cannot say things about our business that are not true.

We will defend ourselves just like any other business. I do not wish you harm, It is a simple warning. As I said on the thread, It's good meeting a fellow
advertiser such as yourself.

If you can please take down our information that would be great! If not, our attorney will get busy.

Hey on another note, your site is not working at all, I would have replied on there.

Thanks,

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Jamie,

I can remove bestbeatsonline but will not removed the e-books that we uncovered. It that satisfactory to you or not?

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Hello Scrub

That sounds like a start, I am not sure what "ebooks that we discovered means" but our whois information needs to down asap.

You also didnt click on the "Join now" buttons on poisoning lawsuit. You would have seen it is not for sale! We use it as a graphic design template! Moral of
the story should be, just because a site is on my server (Even for sale) does not mean it is in connection with something you "Uncover."

We need you to take down everything, our sites have nothing to do with these serious scams on your site. You've done enough damage.

Thanks for your response,

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WhoIs Lookup performed by Karen's WhoIs
http://www.karenware.com/

Domain Name: WWW.EASYCHAIRMILLIONAIRE.COM
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.enom.com
Referral URL: http://www.enom.com
Name Server: NS1.SERVAGE.NET
Name Server: NS2.SERVAGE.NET
Name Server: NS3.SERVAGE.NET
Name Server: NS4.SERVAGE.NET
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Updated Date: 03-dec-2006
Creation Date: 14-may-2006
Expiration Date: 14-may-2008


Last update of whois database: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 20:20:20 UTC

Domain name: www.easychairmillionaire.com
Registrant Contact:
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Whois Agent hqfqdgsgw@whoisprivacyprotect.com
+1.4252740657
Fax: +1.425-696-0234
PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
C/O easychairmillionaire.com
Bellevue, WA 98007
US

Administrative Contact:
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Whois Agent hqfqdgsgw@whoisprivacyprotect.com
+1.425-274-0657
Fax: +1.425-696-0234
PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
C/O easychairmillionaire.com
Bellevue, WA 98007
US

Technical Contact:
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Whois Agent hqfqdgsgw@whoisprivacyprotect.com
+1.425-274-0657
Fax: +1.4256960234
PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
C/O easychairmillionaire.com
Bellevue, WA 98007
US

Status: Locked

Name Servers:
ns1.servage.net
ns2.servage.net
ns3.servage.net
ns4.servage.net

Creation date: 14 May 2006 21:49:25
Expiration date: 14 May 2008 21:49:25
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Old 03-26-07, 05:50 AM
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Re: Get rich quick? www.easychairmillionaire.com

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... pertend like you have percieved my mandatory warning as an "infantile threat" please, dont flatter yourself. Your blog is what....only 3,054,695,654 on Alexa?
Any serious litigant with half a clue directs all further communication through his lawyer once he has decided to sue. There's a good reason for this, which I'll come to shortly. As for the "Alexa" ranking of my blog, I really don't know. I'm not even familiar with what Alexa measures. My blog is free of ads and affiliate links, because I prefer to keep my hands clean and free of conflicting interests while pointing out scams. I have a real job that pays me well enough; alerting people to scams is just something I do in my spare time as a kind of charity work.

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The fact that you are quick to make a connection between someone defending his business on a defaming public forum ... and those who commit internet crimes, show only that your experience in this field is extremely limited ...
If you re-read what I said, you'll find that my problem is not that you defended yourself, but rather the style in which you did it. You have no idea who I am or what my experience is.

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Scrub will recieve legal documents via Postal as well as PDF's, so he'll have to scan them first before he posts them from now on.
Well, now that you've more or less invited him to do so, I hope he takes up the invitation and posts them for public view.

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Where I come from, webmasters do not post people's email inquiries like mine back on the forum without replying...
Personally, I appreciate that Scrub posts all correspondence related to his accusations in public, but I disapprove of the fact that he provides unredacted email addresses when he does so. If he also fails to notify submitters that their comments have been shared publicly, that's also poor form. My own blog contains a notice alongside my email address that I may share email unless specifically asked not to.

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In fact, Based upon the slow rate at which people reply on this ghost-town like forum, I do not consider this forum all very public.
That statement could be used in evidence against you in your upcoming court case against ScamFraudAlert. If this place is the ghost town you say it is, then there's little or no material harm in the alleged defamation.

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I suggest you do some homework into FTC advertising laws, and Internet marketing because you do not seem to be able to decypher the difference between a website that breaks FTC advertising guidelines, and one that doesn't.
I'm not especially interested in whether websites break specific advertising guidelines, least of all FTC ones, given that I'm not an American. Not everything that violates FTC rules is a scam, and vice versa. You're entitled to your opinion about Easy Chair Millionaire; I've expressed mine and I stand by it.

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While you and me talk about this, Scrub gets a dollar every time someone clicks on the MLM and Pyramid scheme adsense ads at the top of the page. You may have missed this, as well as overlooking a mountain of facts when you pertend to understand internet ecommerce.
The advertising issue is one of the reasons I have declined partnership invitations from ScamFraudAlert, and left my own pages ad-free. And again, I don't pretend to understand e-commerce, and I don't advise people how to make money online. Unlike the people who claim "I was scammed 37 times", I have yet to be scammed at all. I advise people on how to maintain a track record like mine, and I do it for free. If you fail to understand my business model, it's because I'm not operating a business.
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Old 03-27-07, 03:21 AM
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Re: Get rich quick? www.easychairmillionaire.com

Hi Idecieve,

I had to register with a new name because for some reason The site crashes when I enter Biguniversity1.

You should seriously study internet law. It makes no sense to get involved in something you know nothing about. If someone is not concerned with websites that break advertising guidelines they are by no means qualified to "alert people to scams." With someone's limited understanding of ecommerce, I would not trust that person to accurately identify a scam, the person could get into alot of trouble by slandering a legitimate business.

Regarding this thread, It was ugly and wrong before I got here. The webmaster took down my information, which was the correct thing to do. My opinions of the venue have nothing to do with the fact that my phone number was posted with a website I do not own. This is obviously reckless behavior, you failed to recognize this, and instead critisized me for whatever reason. Im here to help. And by the way, "I was scammed 37 times" is a famous affiliate.

If EasyChair is a violator, the problem would lie in the advertising. It is possible for him to do it legally. It is when you promise one thing (In advertising) and then fail to deliver that makes you a scammer. (With this type of site.)

Thanks & talk to you later.
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THANK YOU for the Scam Fraud Alert. Your doing a great service to the global community ! This guy should be caught and punished.


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Thank you for your information

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I received today the e-mail from Mr. James Klint from WC AG Inc. offering a job. I really read it as an spam. I preferred to search in internet information from the co. or from the person and i reached your web site.

Many thanks to confirm me that the information was not true.

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You have received a new private message at ScamFraudAlert from DeadBody, entitled "Hello".

To read the original version, respond to, or delete this message, you must log in here:
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I wanna Thank you because you tell me about www.myrxgoldmine.com
"Online Pharmacy Now They take your money and give nothing back Ripoff Internet" that you say
My father wants to send money to them and work
but our budget is not biggest thanks because you alert me
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The following message was sent to you via the ScamFraudAlert Contact Us form by Sam.

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Header Analysis

Welcome, traveller! You appear to be from United States. PM mugu_cultist if you have experience any problems.

The following IP addresses were extracted from your headers:
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64.34.64.97 Canada* Whois Google
007.04.28.07 United States* Whois Google
64.34.64.97 Canada* Whois Google
68.142.207.127 United States* Whois Google
65.100.33.134 United States* Whois Google
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i dont know what kind of company you are i did not authorize you to take out 49.95 from my account you do not give me my money back i will be contacting my lawyer you got that.i want my money back in my account as fast as you took it out.


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I can't. I deleted them as soon as I received them but they were all from payday loan places. If I get another one, I will forward it to you.

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