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Old 03-16-08, 08:16 PM
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Re: Liberty League International scam Dagmar Campbell Larry Harmon again

Hey guys,

I just wanted to make a few comments (not just specific to Liberty League International, but to ANY opportunity out there...be it the Network Marketing Industry, Real Estate, etc., etc.). Please keep in mind that I am NOT a part of Liberty League, but just wanted to add my $0.02.

1) In almost ANY venue (ESPECIALLY in an entrepreneurial venue), you will see a large majority of people getting 'minimal' results, while a much smaller minority will be excelling.

2) If a company pays out EXACTLY what they say they will (in terms of commissions being paid, etc.), then it is NOT a scam.

3) If there is an actual stand alone product that can be sold at RETAIL, then it is NOT a pyramid. If someone is REQUIRED to buy a product in order to join a company, then they are violation of pyramid laws. If someone is EXCLUSIVELY selling a product (tangible or not, retail value or not) to ONLY distributors (so basically, the "product" is only an excuse to keep the money game going) then it's a violation of pyramid laws. As much as some people hate Liberty League, the top distributors of Liberty League International are not in violation of ANY of the above.

4) The Better Business Bureau is NOT a good place to do your due diligence (since they are a "for profit" company, and will simply endorse any company that pays them the dough). Furthermore - for those companies that do NOT pay BBB, BBB will simply post a list of unresolved/resolved complaints about a company that are submitted to them (and therefore, the "complaint" in itself may not have much credibility...if any).

5) The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Direct Sales Agency, and the Better INTERNET Bureau are far better places to do due diligence on a company (especially ones that are heavily online based).

6) Mike Dillard and Jay Kubassek did NOT leave Liberty League International because it was a scam (infact - both men are involved in the company that I'm a part of, but I digress). The reason why Kubbassek and Dillard left LLI (to my understanding), is because both men have a huge desire to create 100+ millionaires over the next 5+ years. With Liberty League's compensation plan, they have a "one up" system where a distributor's 1st sale is passed up to an upline. While this type of system is tremendous for someone with EXCELLENT marketing skill (i.e. Tony Rush), it is tougher for the "rookie/novice/newbie" to succeed with this type of comp plan. Systems which have a "1 up" comp plan, often find members "competing" with one another for sales (since after the 1st sale, your 'downline' member is technically no longer a part of you). In Dillard and Kubbassek's current affiliation, upline leaders are rewarded for training downline members (even if it means that there is slightly less advantage for the top-tier members...relative to a 1up plan such as Liberty League).

7) It IS possible to make $30,000 per month in 4-6 months with a powerful Network Marketing company (so yes - there IS some credibility with those highly ridiculous ads that we often see ). However, there are two caveats which NEED to be taken into consideration.

A) People that make this type of money THIS fast are ALREADY expert marketers themselves. OR..

B) New distributors that make this kind of money this fast, are LITERALLY having their hand held by another top distributor (one of which has earned 6 figures+ himself/herself).

People that aren't 'A' or 'B' can still make huge incomes, but it will usually take about 12 months+ (if they are continuosly learning, working hard/smart, and are ONLY taking advice from people that have proven success in that respective field/company).

Anyway - just my $0.02.

Cheers.
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